Inna Ivchenko, Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA (Barcode Properties)

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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services


I cannot say what I really feel about that other than it is all bull 💩 and it ties to the new narrative designed to tear down and destroy America! 

Sep 26, 2023 03:32 PM
Shayne Stone
HomeSmart - Fulshear, TX
"Your Rock Solid Choice Realtor"

In our MLS in Houston Texas area, had changed the Master to Primary!!!


But my personal thoughts of using the word "Master" in real estate mainly referred to the one that "PAYS THE BILLS!"  It didn't have any other meaning as some have suggested...

Sep 26, 2023 02:40 PM
Bob "RealMan" Timm
Ward County Notary Services - Minot, ND
Owner of Ward Co Notary Services retired RE Broker

When I was active we used it Inna Ivchenko . As far as it being racist or sexist people who love to find fault are looking for it at every opportunity they can find. I say what sad and pathetic lives they live just looking for negativity in everything.

Sep 26, 2023 01:23 PM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ

Oh we go again!  I do not pay attention to what a  very small fraction of people consider what it is tomorrow they will make up something new.  Stopped caring awhile back and I do see a trend of a LOT of people not paying attention either.  Let's move on.


All the folks I work with still consider it master suite.  Nobody ever uses another word.  But they do make jokes about  the whole word salad mess.

Sep 26, 2023 02:20 PM
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Yeah . . . bc I'm the mistress of ceremonies! 
We don't have any rules against it.
AZ pretty girl! 💖


Sep 26, 2023 03:07 PM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

I don't... I've been using owner's suite for a long time. But my clients all still refer to it as a master suite, master bedroom, master bath. I don't know that there is a "law" against using that term, but our MLS has switched to primary bedroom. Problem is that it's hard to call it a primary suite, which would indicate there is a secondary suite when normally there isn't. 

Sep 26, 2023 02:13 PM
Kat Palmiotti
406-270-3667,, Broker/REALTOR® - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

When adding residential listings, if you want to talk about specific rooms, the checkbox says "primary bedroom" and "primary bathroom". There is no option for master bedroom/bath.

I did find a state government document (Montana) that uses both interchangeably but it's from 2018 so is probably outdated.

Sep 26, 2023 01:44 PM
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Absolutely do!  Has nothing to do with ethnicity or gender.  I'll be using it long after the commies cancel it.

Sep 26, 2023 07:01 PM
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

Hi, Inna Ivchenko 

    The Law?  It is called the First Amendment.   

    You can call it anything you want.  

Sep 26, 2023 05:49 PM
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC

There is no local 'law' but, we have changed the term 'master' to 'primary,' despite the use of master in nearly all conversations by our clients!

I still use MBA as PBA would not be recognized in any write-up - not even by the powers that be who decided that we must change a term because we are all foolish enough to believe it means something nefarious! 

Sep 26, 2023 05:38 PM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Nope, I'll follow along & do the primary. Not a bad thing I guess.

Sep 26, 2023 01:09 PM
Carla Freund
Keller Williams Preferred Realty - Raleigh, NC
Carolina Life RealEstate & Relocation 919-602-8489

We don't have a rule against it at this time but I have started using primary more.

Sep 27, 2023 06:56 AM
Brenda Mayette
Miranda Real Estate Group, Inc. - Glenville, NY
Getting results w/ knowledge & know-how!

No local law on this.  I see no reason not to use it but have been using "owner's suite" more than master lately to avoid any potential conflict. 

Sep 27, 2023 04:56 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

NO, however I know what it implies. Older homes, let's say decades ago, just made bedrooms without baths associated to them. Master indicates a bath. 

Sep 26, 2023 01:50 PM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
A moving experience!

It's truly a tempest in a tea kettle.

The term "Master Bedroom" was never, in my humble opinion, used racially.  Think, if you will, of the song "Master of the House" from Les Miserables, which takes place in France in the early 1800's.  Not at all related to slavery, rather the head of the household.  And where would the Master of the house sleep?... why in the master bedroom!

But I suppose, it's just as simple to say primary bedroom, and if it'll ruffle fewer feathers, then I can manage it... but c'mon people.  Don't we have better things to complain about?  Everybody raise a glass!!

Sep 27, 2023 04:26 AM
Diana Zaccaro Broker Associate
Tropical Beachside brokered by eXp - Cocoa Beach, FL
"The Accidental Blogger" Cocoa Beach, Florida

Some agents here use "owner's suite" or "primary bedroom with en suite bath" while a few still use "master". I have never understood why no one had a problem with "master bedroom" until recently.

Sep 26, 2023 07:21 PM
Ray Henson
eXp Realty of California, Inc. (lic. #01878277) - Elk Grove, CA

I use it.  I do not worry about other people defining words incorrectly to make a political point.

Sep 27, 2023 07:14 AM
Jerry Lucas
ABC Legal Docs LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Notary Training, Consulting. Colorado Springs, CO

I renamed my master bedroom to plantation headquarters. Is that better?
I use Master Locks on my gate and garden shed. Is that OK?
I searched my property and did not find any slaves anywhere.
No one in my family history ever owned slaves. My ancestors were poor peasant farmers from Europe who came to America to work in the PA coal mines.
Is Ticket Master changing their name?
Gordon Ramsey's Master Chef?
ChannelMaster TV antennas?
Masterpiece Theater on PBS?
Harbor Master?
Concert Master (Maestro)?  These are the worst "offenders".
A Master with a stick, commanding a group of "enslaved" workers.
At the Masters golf tournament, there are Master golfers with clubs that have obedient servants haul their golf bags around for hours, while millions of fans approve this practice, and sponsors pay for ads. 
Universities make millions of dollars selling Master degrees.

The most ironic of all is if you are following the commands of your speech Master and obeying as a speech slave, with no freedom of speech.

Sep 27, 2023 06:54 AM
Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

That went out the window as "politically incorrect" several years ago, its "primary" now. 

Sep 27, 2023 06:34 AM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

IN keeping with decorum, and not spewing my thoughts on this, I defer to Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist comment and will move on before I get in trouble.

Sep 27, 2023 05:02 AM
Peter Mohylsky, Beach Expert
PMI. Destin - Miramar Beach, FL
Call me at 850-517-7098

We can’t use it, it is not a law but a MLS rule.  I am not sure realtors feel this is good but who can say.  Not a fan personally. NW Florida MLS seems to go with NAR guidance.  We have a list of words we can not use but I have never read it.  The MLS reviews our listings and SUGGESTS changes. 

Sep 27, 2023 03:25 AM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

It's still on the MLS "Acceptable" phrase list.

Sep 27, 2023 04:41 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

I'm not an agent, but I'm with many of the others on this. We are being asked to make a mountain out of a molehill for one purpose.  BTW- I am not asking anyone to call their "Oriental" rug "Asian" rug. Truly common sense went out with the bathwater. 

Sep 27, 2023 10:09 AM
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego

Yes, only ignorant people that are themselves prone to be racist or sexist see it as limited to those meanings. As a wordsmith and a published author, I see it as it's intended.

a man who has people working for him, especially servants or slaves.
"he acceded to his master's wishes"
a man in charge of an organization or group.

having or showing very great skill or proficiency.
"a heart-warming story from a master storyteller"
main; principal.
"the apartment's master bathroom has a free-standing oval bathtub"
acquire complete knowledge or skill in (an accomplishment, technique, or art).
"I never mastered Latin"
gain control of; overcome.
"I managed to master my fears"

Sep 27, 2023 09:18 AM
Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
Carmel by the Sea, CA
Rothwell Realty Inc. CA#01968433 Carmel-by-the-Sea

"Primary" describes it better, and "master" never made sense, so I'm glad for the change.  

Sep 26, 2023 04:45 PM
Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Evolution - 447 Boston Street Topsfield, MA - Georgetown, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

We've been advised to use a different language than "master" Personally, I think it is stupid and a political manipulation of speech.

Sep 27, 2023 11:23 AM
Tony Lewis
Summit Real Estate Group - Valencia, CA
Summit Real Estate Group Valencia & Aliso Viejo

I have mastered the use of Master Bedroom as I master ethics

Sep 27, 2023 04:55 PM
J.R. Schloemer, CRS
Kentucky Select Properties - Louisville, KY

Our Board changed it a few years ago. I do not think too much of it, since we do not fill in the room names, but select them from a dropdown box.

Sep 27, 2023 04:41 PM